Subcontinental Breakfast

Sam's travel blog, picking up in the Middle East where last summer's exploits in India left off.

Monday, July 17, 2006

"If there are going to be songs about World War III, we need to write them beforehand"

Jayshree, the administrative assistant at Vikramshila, called me over to her computer yesterday to read an e-mail she had received from a friend. It was a chain e-mail, declaring that the terrorists couldn’t interrupt Mumbai’s way of life—everyone went to work the next morning, taking the same train lines that had been bombed the day before. It was nice, although not particularly moving. As I got up from her computer to go back to what I had been doing, she told me that she had lost two relatives in the attacks. Neither was too close to her, it sounds like—her brother-in-law’s uncle was killed, as was a second cousin. But these are people she knows, and people who are very close to people who are close to her. Jayshree and I aren’t too close; we always talk over lunch, and chat a bit during the day, but this was the closest we’ve come to a heart-to-heart. She told me with a smile on her face, the kind you wear when you’d prefer to hold an idea out at arm’s length rather than have it float uninhibited in your mind.

All in all, the world has had a pretty bad couple of weeks. Hizbollah and Israel are doing their best to start World War III, while India has suffered three terrorist attacks from two different groups. On 7/11, bombs went off in Kashmir and Mumbai, allegedly the work of Pakistani-supported extremist Islamic groups. And just yesterday, 1,000 heavily armed Maoist Naxalite rebels killed 26 people in a government “safe zone,” and took 200 more captive.

I am perfectly safe; West Bengal, and Kolkata in particular, have very large Muslim populations, and yet there is a notable absence of communal violence. I’ve heard a couple of people talking about how West Bengal is a powder keg, but I’ve seen little evidence to support that. And the Maoist rebels tend to be situated in central and northern India.

I think one big mistake made frequently in conversations on the war on terror is the presumption that ‘terrorists’ are crazy and irrational, and that they are motivated by hatred or pride or some other immaterial entity. They (the proverbial ‘they,’ the negative image of ‘us’) want to destroy our way of life; they hate our freedom. David Cross, in one of his ultra-liberal stand-up comedy routines, remakes on this rhetoric (and I’m paraphrasing here):

“Actually, I don’t think they are attacking us because they hate our freedom. I think it’s because they’re mad about the United States’ support for the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and about the presence on American troops in Saudi Arabia that is condoned only by an oppressive monarch. Why do I think this? BECAUSE IT’S WHAT THEY SAID.”

Funny stuff, but I think his point is crucial. Individuals go on insane murderous rampages, like Norman Bates, the mild-mannered hotel owner in Psycho. And whole peoples can be spurred to violence and wreck unbelievable carnage, like the massacres in Rawanda, although even those tragedies have roots in their histories of colonization and oppression.

But to suggest that whole nations and societies can go crazy for long periods of time —that is, act without any reason or purpose—is either intellectual laziness or intentional manipulation. Often, I believe, it’s a combination of the two. It’s important to take people seriously when they proclaim their grievances. That doesn’t mean you’re required to yield to their demands, but it does mean you have to engage them as human beings.

Yesterday, I talked with Debarati, another one of the Vikramshila women, about her take on the recent bombings. I realize that it’s somewhat unfair to take people too literally the week after their country has been attacked. Debarati is a smart person, and she was willing to temper and qualify her more extreme statements when I pushed her—but her gut reactions were telling about the way people think in the aftermath of violence.

There are a lot of issues surrounding the bombings in Mumbai, including the degree of the Pakistani government’s complicity or participation in the attacks. But part of the issues comes from India’s possession of the state of Kashmir. Kashmir has been a disputed territory since Indian independence in 1947. When it was decided to partition the subcontinent, the guiding rule was for territories with Hindu majorities to form India, while the territories with Muslim majorities would become Pakistan. Kashmir was an exception. Indian-administered Kashmir is 70% Muslim, but at the time of partition, the local monarch was a Hindu, and he decided his kingdom should be part of India.

Pakistan claims, completely reasonably, that monarchs have no authority, and that the decision for Kashmir to remain in India was illegal. If the rule had been followed, all of Kashmir would belong to Pakistan. Of course, it’s hard to side to strongly with a country under a military dictatorship, which doesn’t really get points where democracy and human rights are concerned. In any case, nobody has ever let Kashmir vote to determine its fate, although it is widely agreed that an election would result in an independent statehood, unaligned with either of its huge neighbors.

In the meantime, Kashmiris have suffered terribly at the hands of the Indian and Pakistani militaries, and have seen the most consistent stream of terrorist attacks. Kashmiris, it seems to me, have a completely understandable and legitimate political grievance. And while I don’t want to condone the slaughter of innocent civilians, when a people are denied an official military by which to defend themselves, it’s not surprising that they turn to covert means. Pakistan sees in this conflict a way to undermine India’s power, and has probably provided support as a result.

It surprised me when Debarati asked, “But do you really think that they would stop attacking India if they had Kashmir?” I of course don’t know the answer to this question. But the idea that the Kashmiris would keep attacking India indefinitely, regardless of outcome, is worse than ludicrous—it is the perspective of a nation that refuses to take seriously the complaints of an oppressed people.

And to sustain this view, Debarati and other Hindus have to maintain something like the belief that, as Debarati told me, “All Muslims hate Hindus.” She told me this calmly, stating a somewhat regrettable but unalterable fact of nature. Their violent tendencies stem from this hatred.

It’s a convenient position for the Indian government to take, because it means you never have to consider a compromise, or consider that people have been wronged and deserve remittance. It’s the same way that the Israeli government views the Palestinians. I even think it’s the way the US defines terrorists—those people who act irrationally, for no real purpose, and who therefore don’t need to be treated like human beings.

Of course, after your country has been hit by a dizzying series of attacks, when Jayshree is thinking about her relatives who were in one of the train compartments where a bomb went off, such a reaction is understandable. When you are considering the death of a loved one, it is impossible to imagine that the person responsible could justify their actions. “A justification for this?” the people of Mumbai are asking. “Justify this and you destroy the moral fabric of our lives.”

But I think we have to listen, and we have to be sympathetic, and we have to take people seriously, or the moral fabric we think we’re defending becomes the basis for a perpetual cycle of revenge.

5 Comments:

At 3:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the report about the "military style" attack in Baghdad where masked men went into a neighborhood and shot unarmed civilians, including old men, women and children. 40-70 dead. (What exactly makes that a "military style" attack.) It is hard to comprehend what degree of mistreatment would make me think that was an appropriate response. I disagree with you latest post in one respect. I think whole nations do go crazy for long periods of time. Why else would the US government subsidize tobacco, not attend to energy policy; why would we drink gallons of soft drinks. Why would we care about the Bennifer or Angelina and Brad's babies. These are all irrational behaviors--not on a par with murderous rages, but crazy nonetheless.
Dad

 
At 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nations do go crazy for extended periods. Germany, 1933-1945, for example, which is ultimately a large part of the problem we have today in the middle east. While the U.S. is not on the same scale with the Nazis or terorists, there is some of the same sort of ultra-nationalism/"we're right, they're wrong" mentality in the air in the U.S., the kind that allows people to become death camp guards and suicide bombers. How else do you explain Guantanomo, or our unblinking support of Israel. (Shouldn't we be saying something other than "they can do whatever they have to do?") Sadly, I'm not even sure that this behavior is irrational. It strikes me as psychotic, or at least sociopathic. But then again, do we need to be debating semantics on the cusp of World War III? By the way, Dad, we care about Angelina's children because its more fun to read about celebrities than it is to read about terrorists. Escapism is absolutely not irrational--its how an overloaded mind deals with fear and uncertainity. Or it could just be laziness. All of this is symptomatic of misplaced priorities which aren't irrational, just unfortunate.

 
At 7:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sam your blog is great... I just started a blog, but I think I am going to tell people they can't read mine if they are reading yours... it creates unrealistic expectations as to how insightful a blog should be, they're just going to have to pick. I leave for Spain on Sunday, have a great rest of summer.
much love, laura ann sweitzer

 
At 2:50 AM, Blogger Sam McCormally said...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we need to define "rational" in such a way that our enemies are not automactically crazy homocidal souless psychopaths. I don't want to be tautological here, and say that every one is always rational by definition (ie, well, the Germans voted for Hitler, so it must have been in their self-interest).

But, especially when dealing with Islam, there's a tendancy to write the whole thing off because "they are Muslim." This is your clash of civilizations thesis. The West has its liberal universalist values all sorted out, and "Arabs just hate freedom."

For more on this, read "Orientalism" by Edward Said.

 
At 7:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Sam
your post on the 17th and the responses to it got me thinking about the role of rationality in violent acts. some people seem to want to pose a fundamental disjunction between violence against civilians and our everyday behavior. and i imagine there are distinctions, but it seems to me that they fall more along a continum, continuium (uh... [cough] ) spectrum.

[what follows is not an attempt to assert new knowledge, for i think i'm repeating some of what you said. nor is it an attempt to assign other specific people certain views, but rather to explore thoughts in the context of what their comments made me think about. and please excuse the attempts to produce diagrams in electronic mail.]

Spectrum of how good we feel about people's ends and means in certain actions:

VERY GOOD
/\
| universalist ideals
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| bennifer fascination
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| subsidize tobacco
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| unconditional military aid to | israel
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| targeted killing of civilians
|
\/

|
| norman bates
\/

NOT SO GOOD

it seems to me that everyone on the line is pursuing goals rationally. i (and it seems like your dad) would want everyone to be at the top with a thoroughgoing analysis that sees all peoples' welfare as interconnected, etc.

but as jb noted, some people's goals are different (escaping from difficult everyday life, etc). and it seems to me that what makes these different behaviors distinct is how far their means (and to some extent, ends) diverge from what we (your dad and I, I presume) would describe as just and commendable behavior.

but even something like the targeted killing of civilians -- given existing power vaccuums, the potential to gain power through violence, the promotion (by the US and others) of the idea that violence solves problems* -- makes some sort of rational sense.

[*I'm thinking of Iraq here with these specifics, but I think some of the same theory may apply to the mumbai bombing]

i think attacking someone's reasoning or justification, calling it irrational or crazy, often works to distance the speaker from association with the "irrational" actor, with the implicit assumption that the speaker is rational and thus could not commit such acts. it's maybe less convincing to distance "them" from "us" merely based on the difference in means that they see make sense in their context.

then someone like norman bates would be someone whose interaction with their environment has led to a break with ordinary modes of action-discernment, a situation where they no longer apply reason in the same way that most humans do. and even if people who target civilians for violence are "norman bateses," i think we can still apply reason to investigate how they came to be in such a state.

and even if people voting for hitler made decisions that ended up going against their self-interest, their voting decision can be seen as rational if we base the analysis in what values, expectations, and (perhaps limited) knowledge they had at the time.

not sure if that all hangs together, but it's helped me to write it out.

jason

 

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